Comments on: The Last of the Light Brigade (penultimate verse edited out) — by Rudyard Kipling http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-penultimate-verse-edited-out-by-rudyard-kipling/ Net home of the Isolanis Chess Club Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:04:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The Last of the Light Brigade (complete version) — by Rudyard Kipling at isolanis.com http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-penultimate-verse-edited-out-by-rudyard-kipling/comment-page-1/#comment-32964 The Last of the Light Brigade (complete version) — by Rudyard Kipling at isolanis.com Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:53:08 +0000 http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-by-rudyard-kipling/#comment-32964 [...] edited version, with comments [...] [...] edited version, with comments [...]

]]> By: Captain Iso http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-penultimate-verse-edited-out-by-rudyard-kipling/comment-page-1/#comment-32963 Captain Iso Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:36:56 +0000 http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-by-rudyard-kipling/#comment-32963 Thanks again to our poetry commentators for increasing our understanding of this verse. Apt indeed, as this background information gives it almost unbearable weight. We will publish the poem in its entirety. Thanks again to our poetry commentators for increasing our understanding of this verse. Apt indeed, as this background information gives it almost unbearable weight.

We will publish the poem in its entirety.

]]> By: Bruce Mackenzie http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-penultimate-verse-edited-out-by-rudyard-kipling/comment-page-1/#comment-32962 Bruce Mackenzie Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:45:05 +0000 http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-by-rudyard-kipling/#comment-32962 According to the New York Times of 2 Nov 1913, Tennyson's sequel poem to 'The Charge of the Light Brigade' revived a Liberal Party charity, which had other uses for the money including funding an Irish Nationalist and the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals; the last of the Light Brigade got what was left! The deleted verse seems apt. According to the New York Times of 2 Nov 1913, Tennyson’s sequel poem to ‘The Charge of the Light Brigade’ revived a Liberal Party charity, which had other uses for the money including funding an Irish Nationalist and the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals; the last of the Light Brigade got what was left! The deleted verse seems apt.

]]> By: Captain Iso http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-penultimate-verse-edited-out-by-rudyard-kipling/comment-page-1/#comment-20259 Captain Iso Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:03:44 +0000 http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-by-rudyard-kipling/#comment-20259 Thanks for the benefit of your research and further explanation of the verse in question. Your contribution to the isolanis.com poetry section is greatly appreciated. Thanks for the benefit of your research and further explanation of the verse in question. Your contribution to the isolanis.com poetry section is greatly appreciated.

]]> By: Diane Oldman http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-penultimate-verse-edited-out-by-rudyard-kipling/comment-page-1/#comment-19569 Diane Oldman Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:35:45 +0000 http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-by-rudyard-kipling/#comment-19569 I have since discovered via the Kipling Society, that the verse in question appeared in newspaper editions, including the NY Times, until 1913. When Kipling's works were 'collected' in 1919 the verse is missing. Perhaps it was an attempt at political correctness since from around 1914 the Irish Home Rule question came to a head. Perhaps Kipling's American wife Carrie influenced him to remove it. I have since discovered via the Kipling Society, that the verse in question appeared in newspaper editions, including the NY Times, until 1913. When Kipling’s works were ‘collected’ in 1919 the verse is missing.

Perhaps it was an attempt at political correctness since from around 1914 the Irish Home Rule question came to a head. Perhaps Kipling’s American wife Carrie influenced him to remove it.

]]> By: Captain Iso http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-penultimate-verse-edited-out-by-rudyard-kipling/comment-page-1/#comment-15385 Captain Iso Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:24:03 +0000 http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-by-rudyard-kipling/#comment-15385 I wonder if "the felon that sprang from an Irish bog" is a specific person or a general reference to criminals. The fact that criminals, old horses and stray dogs were a higher welfare priority than England's aging war heroes doesn't seem any more controversial than the rest of the poem. I think it reads better without the verse in question and am inclined to believe that Kipling omitted it by preference. I wonder if “the felon that sprang from an Irish bog” is a specific person or a general reference to criminals. The fact that criminals, old horses and stray dogs were a higher welfare priority than England’s aging war heroes doesn’t seem any more controversial than the rest of the poem. I think it reads better without the verse in question and am inclined to believe that Kipling omitted it by preference.

]]> By: Diane Oldman http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-penultimate-verse-edited-out-by-rudyard-kipling/comment-page-1/#comment-15259 Diane Oldman Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:05:38 +0000 http://isolanis.com/2007/06/the-last-of-the-light-brigade-by-rudyard-kipling/#comment-15259 I have found a version of Kipling's Last of the Light Brigade where the penultimate verse reads as follows: "They sent a cheque to the felon that sprang from an Irish bog; They healed the spavined cab-horse; they housed the homeless dog; And they sent (you may call me a liar), when felon and beast were paid, A cheque, for enough to live on, to the last of the Light Brigade." I heard tell that this verse was considered 'controversial' and was removed. It was attributed to the St James Gazette, 28 April 1890. Any comments? I have found a version of Kipling’s Last of the Light Brigade where the
penultimate verse reads as follows:

“They sent a cheque to the felon that sprang from an Irish bog;
They healed the spavined cab-horse; they housed the homeless dog;
And they sent (you may call me a liar), when felon and beast were paid,
A cheque, for enough to live on, to the last of the Light Brigade.”

I heard tell that this verse was considered ‘controversial’ and was removed.
It was attributed to the St James Gazette, 28 April 1890.

Any comments?

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